Testosterone results too

EASC · WSM buddy Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 393

Hate to start another thread about this but I just get my results back from the doctor too.I'm at 73 right now and he did say that 73 is quite low.I will test again because he feels we need to be able to reproduce the first result to be certain.I will go in again soon and I know it will be low again so I need to start preparing for this treatment it sounds like.Thankfully much of this information has been covered in other threads and I need only to look it up.If it werent for this forum,I never would have known to test for testosterone in the first place!

pharmloan · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject:

i cant believe your dr. wants to test you again with your levels that low, he should have wrote you a script right then. i have done right much research on this subject and it can be real dangerous if your levels are as low as ours are. lots of people think oh well you just have no libido, well thats just one small problem there are so many other factors involved with having low test. oyu need some med and you need it now, i would make sure you get it soon. when to you see him again, if its not soon i would call and say look i need to see you today, i feel like crap and i need some help today. is this a uroligist or just your GP. if its a GP he may not give you the injections, he may just recommend the patches, if he does, i hope you have some real good ins, if not demand the injections , and if he is still like my hard headed dr. in my one horse town, asked to see another dr. or get up with me by pm and i will help you find some help , i helped a guy on here the other day and he is already set up and ready to go. i know this is a site for advocating for methadone, but im finding myself advocate a little for testosterone therapy. Dont get me wrong my heart is in methadone advocacy. methadone saved my life and i will be indebted to it for life, but testosterone therapy saved my manhood so to speak. and has since strengthened my marriage a bit lately, i think my wife likes the testosterone a little better. haha!

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METHworksnNO · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject:

Absolutely he should have written the script then and there. My reading was 86, and my MD told me that his was the lowest testosterone test he had seen in years. So EASC, I'm feeling your pain, buddy.

I absolutely think that all males on MMT should check their TEST levels every few months and treat them if they're low, if possible. I'm so grateful for this board and particularly to Hoss for calling this whole phenomenon to my attention in the first place. If it weren't for this board, I'd surely be still wondering what was "wrong" with me and clueless as to why I was feeling the way that I was, so thanks!!

METHworksnNO · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject:

Pharmloan, I hear you on the advocacy thing. I think being an advocate for TEST is part and parcel of being an advocate for Methadone. So many of our systems are interlocking and are affected by our taking Methadone. Bravo to you!

EASC · WSM buddy Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 393

UPDATE: I just got my results in for the second test and reviewed them with my doctor.They were again WAY low.I was at 76 when I tested this time.Rather than start up the testosterone supplementation right away,my doctor and I agreed that it may not be a bad idea to check with his endocrinologist first,to see what all the possible factors are here.He may want to run further tests,he might not.More than likely he will refer me back to my primary doctor to start me on Testosterone replacement therapy.

pharmloan · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:48 am Post subject:

this is what ticks me off about drs. you being that low you need to start test replacement ASAP not in a few more weeks. It effects so much more than just libido, there so many neg things that could happen to us as a result of low test, luckily i found a dr that told me that i needed to get my levels up NOW and started me on treatments right then.
hoss may want to move this topic in the members lounge or something since its not totally a methadone info subject, its more of a man thing

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EASC · WSM buddy Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 393

Pharmloan,
Thanks for responding.I am a little worried now after reading your reply.Is this something I need to do right away?What am I in danger of right now?Geez I hope its not serious!

Kelly · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject:

EASC does your doc know you are on methadone? Maybe you should bring him some research on low test and methadone? It lowers women also. try being a women and getting that med! pharm around herewill refuse to give women the script even though the doc say's to. here if you are a female there is one pharm that will make up the script for you and one only. It sounds as if your dr might be looking for cause as to why it is so low. In fact you take that cause daily you need to make him understand that.

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pharmloan · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject:

i hate to say what all the neg health issues are i looked them up one time and was shocked at what i found out, i dont want to scare you i am sure there are many MMT patients that never even get there levels tested.

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EASC · WSM buddy Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 393

Kelly,
Yes my doc knows I take methadone.I told hom of the correlation and he said he had never heard anything like it.He spoke with his urologist who also said he knew of no correlation.I think he is just trying to be cautious.Holy crap,sorry to hear of the bs you have had to go through Kelly,makes my problem look pretty doable at this point!

pharm-You are right,I would never have even thought to look into it had it not been for this board.!

METHworksnNO · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject:

My MD had never heard of the low testosterone/Methadone connection either. And this is a guy who probably treats 80 patients a week and has for the last 25 plus years. Being on methadone has been an eye opener for me in so many ways.

And now, some not so good news. I went to my MD this week, and he wanted me to have a bone scan, since apparently low bone density and osteoporosis are one of the health problems that low testosterone puts you at risk for. He did it right then and there in his office, and I got the results right away. They weren't pretty.

The test gave measures at the 3 areas of the body most at risk for breakage: neck, wrist, and hip, and mine came back as moderately osteopenic in all 3 areas. Basically, this is the stage just prior to developing osteoarthritis, and it means that my bones are at risk of breaking 3 or 4 times more easily than is normal. Mind you guys, I'm only 37 and have generally been in pretty good health all of my life. So, my MD prescribed some calcium pills for me to take. This all came as a real shock to me.

So guys out there, if you haven't had a T test one, you should all get one ASAP!

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All I had to do was get a prostate exam and do a psa test to make sure things are ok. I now get a testosterone injection every two weeks and it really helps with the libido as well as general well being. I am surprised that your Doctor has not heard of the connection of methadone and low test levels

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Hoss · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:35 am Post subject:

It doesn't surprise me at all that a couple of your MD's had no idea about the correlation between methadone and low testosterone. There are plenty of CLINIC PHYSICIANS that do not know about it. I just wonder if it is only methadone, or if all opioids have this quality over a long period of time and it's just that tests have never been done to justify this?????

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METHworksnNO · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:21 pm Post subject:

EASC · WSM buddy Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 393

UPDATE:I have an appt. to see the endocrinilogist July 11th.While it kinda pisses me off that I have to wait that long to start fixing this imbalance,I hope that my experience here will help to further validate the reality of the connection of methadone to low testosterone levels.This is a valuable experiment,in which I get to be the guinea pig.

About opiates and low libido in general,I do think it will potentially be an interesting area of study.My personal experience has been that illicite opiates have always served as an aphrodisiac in the past.It wasnt until I started on Subutex and Methadone that I noticed my libido started to drop significantly.

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